Comments on: The Darkness Revisited http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/ Video et Taceo Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:49:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: sotacit http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-376 sotacit Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:10:11 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-376 That is correct. That is correct.

]]> By: 1971 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-375 1971 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 23:40:49 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-375 Is Adit the indian son-in-law of Nazim Kamran/Geetee Ara Choudhury? Is Adit the indian son-in-law of Nazim Kamran/Geetee Ara Choudhury?

]]> By: Protik Pronab http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-229 Protik Pronab Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:58:45 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-229 NFC, I am kind of baffled how the tenancy deal got to the point where your parents found themselves dealing with a disgraceful event in public! Ms. Choudhury is an advisor and Mr. Chudhury is an established business person. How could not they foresee the consequences of what was goign on? If She could not, how She could advise the government on the welfare matter of the entire nation and its people; if He could not how He could tackle such a large business! Was/is there something else that you would like to share with us? NFC, I am kind of baffled how the tenancy deal got to the point where your parents found themselves dealing with a disgraceful event in public! Ms. Choudhury is an advisor and Mr. Chudhury is an established business person. How could not they foresee the consequences of what was goign on? If She could not, how She could advise the government on the welfare matter of the entire nation and its people; if He could not how He could tackle such a large business! Was/is there something else that you would like to share with us?

]]> By: Shameed Farhad http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-213 Shameed Farhad Mon, 05 Nov 2007 07:07:12 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-213 Adit "Yes! It is her and their prerogative to do this. " Who gave them this prerogative? An election? An elected parliament? Isn't it is their membership of the Chowdhury dynasty and relationship to a civil crony of a military government? You then got carried away with a liteny of allegations against Dr Islam. These are ugly character assassinations. If an "Adit" can do this much to Dr and Mrs. Islam in a remote blog, we certainly can imagine what Mr Kamran can do to Dr/Mrs Islam when his business ambition faces an obstacle. To be frank, Adit, your ugly statements about Dr Islam kind of proves that what Dr Islam said in that press conference was true. Adit, in case you don't know, exposing the hypocrisy of your clan is a major achievemnt of internet writings. And, no thanks, whatever red eye you come up with, this kind of non-sense writing will continue, as long as the ugly interior is not totally uncovered. Adit

“Yes! It is her and their prerogative to do this. ”

Who gave them this prerogative? An election? An elected parliament? Isn’t it is their membership of the Chowdhury dynasty and relationship to a civil crony of a military government?

You then got carried away with a liteny of allegations against Dr Islam. These are ugly character assassinations. If an “Adit” can do this much to Dr and Mrs. Islam in a remote blog, we certainly can imagine what Mr Kamran can do to Dr/Mrs Islam when his business ambition faces an obstacle. To be frank, Adit, your ugly statements about Dr Islam kind of proves that what Dr Islam said in that press conference was true.

Adit, in case you don’t know, exposing the hypocrisy of your clan is a major achievemnt of internet writings. And, no thanks, whatever red eye you come up with, this kind of non-sense writing will continue, as long as the ugly interior is not totally uncovered.

]]> By: ai http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-212 ai Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:35:03 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-212 Dear Adit, Now we know, the story of two sides doesn't match. It doesn't automatically make your side true and other side false. So we don't see anything that says you or Islams are liars. The other possibility is both parties are lying to some extent. Anyway It is very difficult to prove any verbal agreement in a court. I presume, Chowdhuries are smarter than that! What puzzles me is the black out of the news by the media. I did not see any letter disputing the account of Islams by Chowdhuries. Your last paragraph also make me wonder - if you are so righteous, why you are so irritated that people are writing about it. Shouldn't you be happy that you get a chance to explain your side of story, when every news outlet is not carrying it? You are blaming people without any proof of your claim. Mr Farhad is doing his part of making the country better by asking question (if it is a democracy, not autocracy). What made our country disfunctional is the resistance from persons in power to answer those. I can see you are not different! Dear Adit,
Now we know, the story of two sides doesn’t match. It doesn’t automatically make your side true and other side false. So we don’t see anything that says you or Islams are liars. The other possibility is both parties are lying to some extent. Anyway It is very difficult to prove any verbal agreement in a court. I presume, Chowdhuries are smarter than that!

What puzzles me is the black out of the news by the media. I did not see any letter disputing the account of Islams by Chowdhuries.

Your last paragraph also make me wonder - if you are so righteous, why you are so irritated that people are writing about it. Shouldn’t you be happy that you get a chance to explain your side of story, when every news outlet is not carrying it?

You are blaming people without any proof of your claim. Mr Farhad is doing his part of making the country better by asking question (if it is a democracy, not autocracy). What made our country disfunctional is the resistance from persons in power to answer those. I can see you are not different!

]]> By: adit http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-209 adit Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:01:14 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-209 I am actually quite surprised at some of the reactions to this blog. Mr. (I presume!!) Shameed Farhad talks about Mrs. Choudhury and her relatives driving around in flag cars. Yes! It is her and their prerogative to do this. Having given up what she was doing (and very successfully, at that) to help out a nation in crisis is extremely commendable. What ISN'T commendable are people like Mr Farhad who hide behind their computer screens and criticise everything that is going on. What, may I ask, is his contribution to making this a better country? As far as the case in question is concerned, both Mr. & Mrs. Islam are complete and utter liars. I shudder to think what he has taught his students all these years – apart from what is written in the textbooks (which anyone can read and learn by rote), it is also the responsibility of teachers to instil ethics in their students. How is this possible when they themselves have NONE? Mrs. Islam has lied repeatedly to the tenants of the building, the police, the courts and now to the people of the country with this press conference. As far as beating up people goes, that is not something that happened. Neither was Mr. Islam beaten up (and his leg allegedly broken) by Mr. Kamran Choudhury, nor was his wife slapped while “pleading for her husband’s life”. In all probability, Mr. Islam was probably beaten up by his wife for being such a ninny!!!! As Farhan Choudhury has mentioned, they are trying to take possession of the plot of land behind their existing building (ILLEGALY) and have already built tin structures there to house their goons. Isn’t it wonderful how people look for things like this and then pass judgement? As far as the original article is concerned, I would have thought that the writer would’ve bothered to find out the facts before writing. But I guess that would have meant that no one would read the blog!!! And, as far as Mr. Farhad is concerned, perhaps should get off his rear end and do something worthwhile instead of spending his time on the computer and writing nonsense. I am actually quite surprised at some of the reactions to this blog. Mr. (I presume!!) Shameed Farhad talks about Mrs. Choudhury and her relatives driving around in flag cars. Yes! It is her and their prerogative to do this. Having given up what she was doing (and very successfully, at that) to help out a nation in crisis is extremely commendable. What ISN’T commendable are people like Mr Farhad who hide behind their computer screens and criticise everything that is going on. What, may I ask, is his contribution to making this a better country?
As far as the case in question is concerned, both Mr. & Mrs. Islam are complete and utter liars. I shudder to think what he has taught his students all these years – apart from what is written in the textbooks (which anyone can read and learn by rote), it is also the responsibility of teachers to instil ethics in their students. How is this possible when they themselves have NONE?
Mrs. Islam has lied repeatedly to the tenants of the building, the police, the courts and now to the people of the country with this press conference.
As far as beating up people goes, that is not something that happened. Neither was Mr. Islam beaten up (and his leg allegedly broken) by Mr. Kamran Choudhury, nor was his wife slapped while “pleading for her husband’s life”. In all probability, Mr. Islam was probably beaten up by his wife for being such a ninny!!!!
As Farhan Choudhury has mentioned, they are trying to take possession of the plot of land behind their existing building (ILLEGALY) and have already built tin structures there to house their goons.
Isn’t it wonderful how people look for things like this and then pass judgement? As far as the original article is concerned, I would have thought that the writer would’ve bothered to find out the facts before writing. But I guess that would have meant that no one would read the blog!!!
And, as far as Mr. Farhad is concerned, perhaps should get off his rear end and do something worthwhile instead of spending his time on the computer and writing nonsense.

]]> By: Nazim Farhan Choudhury http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-207 Nazim Farhan Choudhury Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:34:07 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-207 You are absolutely right. It would be. Except for the fact that the lease was to be renewed for another 5 years. We were reassured in February of this year that it will be and again in June. We have invested money in completing the building thinking that it we would spread the investment over a 10 year period and hence will be financial at a loss if we are asked to move before a 10 year period. We are now asking for enough time to be given for us to find adequate facility (we need about 45-50,000 sq ft in Gulshan-Banani area) and financial compensation (to reimburse us for our investment in the building) if we are asked to move. Realistically speaking finding an office block of this size is not easy. The Islams will themselves tell you that it took us 8 months from the time we saw their building to the time we moved in. And not to mention another 7 months of search that we conducted. To multiply our worries, with this issue being sensationalised, many would be space owners are backing down! :( You are absolutely right. It would be. Except for the fact that the lease was to be renewed for another 5 years. We were reassured in February of this year that it will be and again in June.

We have invested money in completing the building thinking that it we would spread the investment over a 10 year period and hence will be financial at a loss if we are asked to move before a 10 year period.

We are now asking for enough time to be given for us to find adequate facility (we need about 45-50,000 sq ft in Gulshan-Banani area) and financial compensation (to reimburse us for our investment in the building) if we are asked to move.

Realistically speaking finding an office block of this size is not easy. The Islams will themselves tell you that it took us 8 months from the time we saw their building to the time we moved in. And not to mention another 7 months of search that we conducted. To multiply our worries, with this issue being sensationalised, many would be space owners are backing down! :(

]]> By: sotacit http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-206 sotacit Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:22:35 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-206 Thanks for responding. I have a question, though. It seems that the basic point of contention is the renewal of lease. In that case, wouldn't it have been prudent, since the landlord had not renewed the lease, to have made preparations to move if he wanted you out? I mean, it seems to me that the onus is on the tenant, not the landlord. Thanks for responding. I have a question, though. It seems that the basic point of contention is the renewal of lease. In that case, wouldn’t it have been prudent, since the landlord had not renewed the lease, to have made preparations to move if he wanted you out? I mean, it seems to me that the onus is on the tenant, not the landlord.

]]> By: Nazim Farhan Choudhury http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-205 Nazim Farhan Choudhury Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:03:49 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-205 Basic facts are that this is (was) a simple lease dispute. We rented the said premise for initially 5 years which was to be automatically renewed for 5 further years. As such we invested money in the completing the building. In February of this year the two parties entered into a verbal understanding that the new contract will be drawn up soon. However we were given notice to vacate. Given that it is close to impossible to find and move 50,000 sq ft in a short time we requested adequate time be given for us to do so. We have gone to court seeking enforcement of our tenancy agreement and / or compensation incase we have to move. This matter is pending in the courts. To our surprise on the 5th of October just before the Eid holidays (and may I add the busiest time of the year for us) the landlord violating the court directives cut of our electricity. After the court holiday, we went back asking for reinstatement. At this time the landlord started delaying tactics asking for more time. As you will quite understand it is impossible to run an office without electricity. We are incurring a revenue loss of Tk 20 lakhs a day due to this. And hence we made provisions to put in our own generators. While trying to bring in our generators the landlord resisted and brought in some "goons" to prevent us from doing so. There was some verbal altercation at that time which was witnessed by 150+ people (crowd) who had turned up at the place. After we brought in the generator the landlord made an impromptu speech to the gathered crowd. Very interestingly he spent rest of the afternoon all over the place talking to people and police. However three days later he called a press conference where he turned up in leg cast and made unsubstantiated allegations against us, including the libelous one that we had threatened his wife and him with bodily harm. One has to go to the root of the issue here. Why doesn't the Islam pair want us a tenants? Amongst the many things they are claiming is that we are using an electricity load more than they allocated and that we have made changes to the structure of the building. Neither of these two points were brought to our notice during the 5 years prior. (we did have some issues with load distribution in the building which was resolved in 2003 with assistance of all tenants.) What they fail to mention that they have put claims to (and have illegally occupied) an empty plot of land adjacent to the building. And that they came to Mrs Choudhury requesting her to use her influence to influence Rajuk to allocate the plot in their name. Which ofcourse Mrs Choudhury refused. We believe that this is the reason why there is this level of animosity against us. Another reason we believe is that they have requested us time and time again to doctor the rental agreement and payment so that there has to be lower tax incidence on them. We have refused to budge from the NBR's directives. Right now there are cases pending in the courts. We will go by the verdicts of these courts. Basic facts are that this is (was) a simple lease dispute. We rented the said premise for initially 5 years which was to be automatically renewed for 5 further years. As such we invested money in the completing the building. In February of this year the two parties entered into a verbal understanding that the new contract will be drawn up soon. However we were given notice to vacate. Given that it is close to impossible to find and move 50,000 sq ft in a short time we requested adequate time be given for us to do so. We have gone to court seeking enforcement of our tenancy agreement and / or compensation incase we have to move. This matter is pending in the courts.

To our surprise on the 5th of October just before the Eid holidays (and may I add the busiest time of the year for us) the landlord violating the court directives cut of our electricity. After the court holiday, we went back asking for reinstatement. At this time the landlord started delaying tactics asking for more time. As you will quite understand it is impossible to run an office without electricity. We are incurring a revenue loss of Tk 20 lakhs a day due to this. And hence we made provisions to put in our own generators.

While trying to bring in our generators the landlord resisted and brought in some “goons” to prevent us from doing so. There was some verbal altercation at that time which was witnessed by 150+ people (crowd) who had turned up at the place. After we brought in the generator the landlord made an impromptu speech to the gathered crowd. Very interestingly he spent rest of the afternoon all over the place talking to people and police. However three days later he called a press conference where he turned up in leg cast and made unsubstantiated allegations against us, including the libelous one that we had threatened his wife and him with bodily harm.

One has to go to the root of the issue here. Why doesn’t the Islam pair want us a tenants? Amongst the many things they are claiming is that we are using an electricity load more than they allocated and that we have made changes to the structure of the building. Neither of these two points were brought to our notice during the 5 years prior. (we did have some issues with load distribution in the building which was resolved in 2003 with assistance of all tenants.)

What they fail to mention that they have put claims to (and have illegally occupied) an empty plot of land adjacent to the building. And that they came to Mrs Choudhury requesting her to use her influence to influence Rajuk to allocate the plot in their name. Which ofcourse Mrs Choudhury refused. We believe that this is the reason why there is this level of animosity against us.

Another reason we believe is that they have requested us time and time again to doctor the rental agreement and payment so that there has to be lower tax incidence on them. We have refused to budge from the NBR’s directives.

Right now there are cases pending in the courts. We will go by the verdicts of these courts.

]]> By: ai http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-203 ai Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:38:25 +0000 http://sotacit.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/the-darkness-revisited/#comment-203 Dear NFC, I agree, dialogue is the way. Could you please give us the facts from your side? Without facts, dialogue is futile. So far we haven't seen any explanation from your side or from the CTG. And dispute should be resolved through the legal system, not by might! Apparently that's what happened. Could you point out what we are missing here? Dear NFC,
I agree, dialogue is the way. Could you please give us the facts from your side? Without facts, dialogue is futile. So far we haven’t seen any explanation from your side or from the CTG. And dispute should be resolved through the legal system, not by might! Apparently that’s what happened. Could you point out what we are missing here?

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